By: John Keitel
UPDATE: 10/1/08-The fireside chat was on March 3, 1933. Not 1929. Not on TV. And there was a decade long event called the DUST BOWL that affected the American economy during his time in office. Not just the original stock market crash in 1929! FULL SPEACH
TELEVISION WAS THE SIZE OF A CREDIT CARD AND WAS EXPERIMENTAL DEFINITELY NOT MAINSTREAM. LIBERALS SHOULD QUIT TRYING TO MAKE JOE BIDENS LIE A TRUTH BY SAYING PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT DID APPEAR ON TV FROM THE WORLDS FAIR BUT NOT SPEAK ABOUT THE DEPRESSION.
Senator Joe Biden Democrat Vice Presidential Nominee held an interview with Katie Couric of CBS Evening News. Biden said “Part of what a leader does is to instill confidence is demonstrate that he or she knows what their talking about and communicates to people, if you listen to me and follow what I’m suggesting we can fix this. When the stock market crashed Franklin Roosevelt got on television and didn’t just talk about the you know the pictures of greed he’s look this is what happened.”
Herbert Hoover was president during the stock market crash NOT Franklin Roosevelt. As if that wasn’t bad enough, television had not been invented!!! The stock market crashed October 29, 1929 Roosevelt was President 1933-1945. In 1929 the television was just being invented and the first station was built but certainly not in use in the manner Joe Biden is lying about. Joe Biden is a chronic liar.
What a great journalist Katie Couric is she didn’t even call Biden on why he thought Roosevelt was President or when TV was invented. Maybe Katie was sleeping when they discussed television history in her college courses. This is obvious bias on the part of CBS to ignore the facts.
What idiot vetted the Democrat Vice Presidential Nominee? Oh yeah, Caroline Kennedy, Jim Johnson, and Barack Obama.
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“Part of what a leader does is to instill confidence and demonstrate that he or she knows what their talking about”
Let me correct you a bit there Biden. A leader *knows what they are about* and then *talks*. When you turn it around, you’re just come off sounding stupid.
Wrong, listen to the clip, its word for word.
Evidently poor Joe Biden simply must have plagiarized the WRONG speech. Hmmm Let’s see McCain is a boob to the Obama ‘froth-at-the-mouth’ fanatics because his injuries don’t allow him to operate a computer. Palin is a hick Chick because she didn’t go to Vasser. BUUT Biden, a plagiarist is a GENIUS..who doesn’t realize that Television was not around in 1929!!! Excuse me, you Obamaites…the dictionary is calling they want a group photo of all of you to post under the entry for ‘HYPOCRITE”
Biden is just another creep in Obama’s Army of Creeps. He’s a “maroon”.
Joe Biden continues to be a complete self-centered idiot who plagerized his way through life totally, and knowingly did not get a good enough education as he has so stated… AMAZING!!!!! No wonder Obama picked Joe, he’s a puppet who’s as dense as wood!
It gets better.
CBS News has edited the online video of Katie Couric’s interview with Mr. Biden, removing his ‘FDR on television’ error.
I put a 20-second excerpt from Mr. Biden’s interview, where he clearly informs us that Franklin D. Roosevelt ‘got on television’ to address the nation, along with CBS News’ sanitized version.
Interesting times we live in.
Yeah, I’m sure none of you ever missed a question in history class. Get a life guys.
This is the history class of his life. If he can’t get the basics then he has no business being in the race.
Oh yeah, he doesn’t have any business being in the race!
Is this one of those satire blogs? Are you trying to be like Stephen Colbert or something? It sure seems like it because I have a hard time believing anyone could be that… for the lack of a better word, partisan.
I mean, I don’t agree with a lot of McCain’s policies (nor do I agree with some of Obama’s), but that doesn’t mean I would start making personal attacks on either candidate.
Rather than preaching to the choir or tooting your own horn, I think you’d get a lot farther if you debated the actual issues (which is what matters) and why you disagree or agree with a candidate rather than silly things like this. I dunno about you but I vote with my brain and my heart, not for a particular party regardless of their stances on issues.
Or is your goal just to mindlessly bash candidates of parties other than your own? If that’s the case, then you have my sympathy.
This has to do with the character of Joe Biden. He is a chronic liar. He wants to be Vice President, then act like one.
I leave the satire to idiots like NBC’s David Letterlost, Chis Noballs, and Keith Otherwoman.
http://digitalartpress.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/nbc-letterman-and-cbs-team-up-to-politically-attack-great-american-hero/
Seems clear to me the only goof was saying TV instead of radio. He’s talking about FDRs Fireside Chat concerning the crash in 1937.
I’m more alarmed with a VP candidate who doesn’t know the current president’s preemptive war policy than one who mistook the nature of a broadcast that happened before he was born.
Biden may have been referring to the crash of 1937-38, which *was* on FDR’s watch, see
http://mutualfunds.about.com/cs/history/p/crash2.htm
However, you have to be some kind of fruit loop to believe that FDR’s fireside chats were televised.
Except for the fact that he said “WHEN THE STOCK MARKET CRASHED” which was 1929 NOT POST 1933 when Roosevelt was President!
I used LexisNexis and they show it was a RECESSION! And I say this downturn took place over 9 MONTHS not 1 DAY.
“The Documentary History of the Franklin D. Roosevelt Presidency, a multi-volume print publication, selects the most revealing documents from over 17 million pages concerning the Roosevelt administrations. Through the use of a variety of manuscript collections, researchers will have critical insight into the machinations of the Roosevelt White House, Roosevelt’s presidential style, his policies and programs, and the colorful characters that advised and influenced the president.
Volume 26: FDR’s Response to Recession, 1937-1938
The U.S. experienced an economic downturn beginning in the late summer of 1937 and continuing well into 1938. Between August 1937 and May 1938, industrial production declined over 30 percent, a more serious decline than the one following the stock market crash in 1929. Employment, payrolls, and stock market prices also declined. Scholars have concluded that the downturn came about because Roosevelt decided to cut government spending. Thus, Roosevelt’s call for increased government outlays in the spring of 1938 seemed natural and logical, historically inevitable. But, as the documents in this volume illustrate, this was not the case. The documents in this volume also present various explanations for the recession.”
Source. http://academic.lexisnexis.com/upa/upa-product.aspx?pid=627&type=AS&parentid=615
Biden said: When the stock market crashed Franklin Roosevelt got televison……
I do believe Biden was talking about the Recession of 1937 which was also part of the The Great Depression.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_of_1937
Where’s the gaffe?
The only gaffe is saying television instead of radio.
Also Biden never said President Roosevelt, but Biden is right that FDR did talk about the stock market crashing (1929 incident)
“In 1922, FDR became governor of New York. The U.S. economy was fundamentally unsound, and Governor Roosevelt predicted that a crash would soon come. The stock market crash of 1929 destroyed the savings and livelihood of millions of Americans, but then-President Hoover’s policies did more harm than good. Meanwhile in New York, FDR implemented relief initiatives that foreshadowed his future strategy in fighting the Great Depression: unemployment insurance, pensions for the elderly, limits on work hours, and massive public works projects. His popularity allowed him to gain reelection as governor, a rare feat in the midst of depression. ”
http://www.scstatehouse.net/studentpage/rosevelt.htm
You don’t really believe that Biden meant radio rather than TV and was talking about 1937. It is amazing what people will come up with when they finally realize that their candidate is going to lose.
I do believe, if my history is correct (and it is) that FDR was indeed president during the course of the great depression. It wasn’t over in a day or even a year. FDR wrote the new deal. But I guess everyone can”t be intelligent enough to think “seeing Russia from my house” equates foriegn affairs.
If Joe Biden is a chronic liar for his mistake, what is John McBush for saying that Iraq and Pakistan share a border?
McBush proved to the world last night in the debate what a liar he is. He reminds me of Nixon – you could tell when Nixon was lying because his lips moved.
McBush and his idiot running mate are a disgrace to the Republican Party and both should bow out of the race for the White House to save the GOP from further embarrassment and shame.
As for you, John Keitel, you are a bigger idiot than both McBush and Moosehuntress, and YOU SUCK!!!!
Why does it not surprize me to discover that we have idiots running our country into the toilet? Biden should be a guest on Jay leno’s “jaywalking” segment of the tonight show. I am reminded in the movie “Animal House” that at the end when they disclose what each of the characters become after college…John Belushi”s character became a U.S. Senator. Seems like Biden must have grabbed the wrong answers to the history exam in 4th grade! We should all require all congressmen to pass a U.S.history entrance exam along with a “piss” test. Failure to comply = “it takes A Village Idiot” !!!
The gaffe is not as bad as it has been made out to be. First of all, Biden never said FDR was president in 1929. Second, in 1929, FDR, as governor of NY, started giving RADIO addresses. Four years later, and still during the depression, he started giving them as president. Wanna bet that during one of his many radio addresses he didn’t talk about the crash of ‘29? Biden’s only error was in saying “television”, when he should have said radio. Big deal.
While certainly Sen. Biden misspoke regarding Franklin Roosevelt getting on television (when in fact, he addressed audiences via radio and presumably theater newsreels), it is absolutely factual that it was Franklin Roosevelt (D), then governor of NY, who forcefully decried the apparent indifference and hostility to Federal level reforms seen by the Republican Hoover administration. Roosevelt pressed the administration publicly and vociferously for regulatory reform. He then launched his 1932 landslide election campaign based on those and subsequent reforms.
Sen. Biden was essentially correct, despite the obvious error about television. It was indeed Franklin Roosevelt that rose to the challenge of the stock market collapse that the Hoover administration got the U.S. into.
Now Roosevelt was Governor when he said this? What next?
Look at the context, people. The only reason why we would have needed FDR to “instill confidence” in the American people is if he were, in fact, president during the crash. The governor of NY, while certainly an important position, is not looked upon as a role model and leader during this nation-sweeping tribulation. Okay, so the television reference rather than radio may have just been a blunder, but I have no doubt that Biden’s comments were based upon ignorance about what actually went on. He’s improvising in a campaign where pretty sound bites are better than pithy, robust knowledge. Just look at the debates.
Actually, folks! Franklin Roosevelt was the first president to appear on television at the 1939 World’s Fair in New York. The depression was still going on at that time.
That is 10 years after what Joe Biden said. Don’t you know if you try to make Joe Bidens lies into truth you will look foolish as well.
TV was the size of a credit card and yes Roosevelt was broadcast on TV. Only the rich saw it. But not during the depression or even about the Depression, Certainly not in 1929!
What a pack of cretins. So he meant “radio”, So what?
Governor of New York, FDR did go on radio to calm markets in 1929.
A simple faux pas is preferable to deranged white trash masquerading as VP material.
The fireside chat was on March 3, 1933. Not 1929. Not on TV.
And there was a decade long event called the DUST BOWL that affected the American economy during his time in office. Not just the original stock market crash in 1929!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_Bowl
Be careful people who you throw stones at people because they’re bouncing back and hitting you upside the head. Both John and especially Palin haven’t done so well with their interviews. I’m embarrassed for Palin and even their own insiders and supporters are asking John to remove her. It’s frightening to even imagine her being in office.
Most important, this Election should be about the issues and the capabilities of those in office.
The issues are what Joe was addressing: Who gives a rat’s behind where FDR said it, the point is and what Joe was saying is FDR did something about the situation:
Just a couple quick found references and I’m sure you can find more suitable ones to verify if you prefer:
From Wiki:
“Franklin Delano Roosevelt (January 30, 1882 � April 12, 1945). During the Great Depression of the 1930s, Roosevelt created the New Deal to provide relief for the unemployed, recovery of the economy, and reform of the economic system.”
and from Wikipedia:
“During the Great Depression of the 1930s, Roosevelt created the New Deal to provide relief for the unemployed, recovery of the economy, and reform of the economic and banking systems.[1] Although recovery of the economy was incomplete until almost 1940, the programs he initiated such as the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA), and the United States Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) continue to have instrumental roles in the nation’s commerce. One of his most important legacies is the Social Security system.”
Which of those programs worked!
What do you define as “worked?” It would be rather dumb to say that FDR’s famed New Deal Programs (known for their acronym titles) did not benefit the economy. In the short term, they only marginally helped to get the U.S. out of a depression, true, but what is there now to be said about the Social Security system or the FDIC? But wait, why is this even being brought up as an issue? Sarah Palin debating tactics, I’m telling you…
Oh, and by the way, it’s called a “speech” and your “Dust Bowl” argument is totally irrelevant considering that was a phenomenon in the western/southern U.S. that *fed* the ongoing depression in non-rural areas, especially in the east. The Great Depression lasted from 1929 to the 1940s, and the Stock Market Crash and Great Depression are two separate entities.
The Roosevelt policies extended the Great Depression, not marginally helped it.
That whole SSI thing has worked out great. The FDIC on has $20 Bill on hand.
Tell my relatives the dust bowl was not a factor. (See image at the top)
A view that the dust bowl had little effect on the US economy happens when people get comfortable in life. Liberals think a depression is ordering house coffee.
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You’re as cheap and low as the Paparazzi in your eager and excited pouncing over a minor gaffe by a person in the spotlight who is knowledgeable. You border on ’spastic’ when someone thinking on their feet miss-states something though their general point is correct. Uptight, OCD, spastic likely sums up those who make something out of nothing. Good God, you could make a career out of this using G.W.’s talks, speeches, interviews. Now there is a moron!
Just following the king of gaffs.
I think you should think about how politics works in the 21st century. And it is much like the last century and the one before that. The candidates get the microscope and the ones that can survive win.
You proved that sides look at their candidates differently. Its not OCD You attacked Bush as a moron as easily as you attacked me or defended Biden.
stupid bloody americans, you don’t even know your own history. Roosevelt was the most influential president during the great depression, gave one of the most poignant speeches of that time and demonstrated clear leadership. Biden’s point stands and his mistake in expressing it as well as he could is, in no way, comparable to the idiocy of Sarah Palin.
F@#% off. Our history is saving the rest of your sorry asses from your own stupid mistakes. And you keep making them over and over. Like loving Marxism.
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I do know my history. I am 18 years old and starting college. Franklin Roosevelt had a plan that gave all of thee americans money.
It took me about 10 minutes on Google to determine that General Electric had an experimental television station in Albany, New York in 1929. FDR lived and worked in Albany as Governor at the time of the Stock Market Crash. Although I agree that Joe Biden probably got it wrong, technically, it could have happened. The station is still broadcasting in Albany as the CBS affiliate.
Have some more Kool-aid.
googled “dust bowl” and ended up on this right wing hate propaganda page. just another misinformed racist with a small amount of information and overflowing ignorance.